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First off. I'll give you
confirmation. Yes. All of your IP has been
deleted. We decided upon that immediately after
we cut off our conversation.
Well, that
better be the case. I'll make sure of it when/if
I ever see anything go public from you,
however.
Second. Since when is Sora no
Kiseki part of your IP? It's not. It's Falcom's.
You have no right to say that I must stop
translating after I've broken ties with you,
because we can't agree on how to utilize and
distribute it to the masses. That's what we
argued on in the first place. We don't have any
right to charge for anything that we didn't
originally create.
How in the fuck did
I include the game itself as part of my
IP?
Use your fucking brain. My IP is
solely limited to what I gave you. Confirmation
that you deleted EVERYTHING I ever gave you is
what I was looking for.
I have no right
to stop you from working with others nor did I
make any comments indicating as such. My concern
was they got a hold of work THAT I DID from you,
you dumb biotch.
Third. You came to me. You said
on here that I came to you. That's a total lie.
You came to me, saying 'Why are you doing it
this way?' and so forth. I was content with
translating it the /hard way/. By hand. Without
tools.
That's bullshit. You were put
into touch with me from the people at ALOY. You
came to them, looking for programming
assistance. You were a translator asking/begging for
assistance, which isn't the usual case. Usually it's
the programmer that hacks the game and then advertises
to attract a translator for it... I had no fucking
means to "come to you" if you didn't use somebody
else's message board to advertise in an attempt to
attract somebody willing to provide programming assistance.
http://seldane.proboards107.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=falcom&thread=1131516364
Your
first fucking post contains a question that asks
for help on how to go about extracting the
script for your programmer.
From what I
see, your programmer later bailed on you, and
then you decided to embark on something insane
like translating from the game as you see it. On
that same later post, you said the
following:
(http://seldane.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=falcom&action=display&thread=1131516364&page=2#1141638300)
If anyone knows how to get it
to me, a script dumped from the game would be
amazingly appreciated, because of late I've
kinda been hand typing the entire thing as I've
played the game. XD;; "
Asking for help
on a board where I visit, where people know me, know my projects,
and mention me is gonna lead to people telling
me about your fucking begging for programming
assistance on a game like that, WHICH IT DID for your fucking information...
So, since you were a translator looking to get
this project started and I was a programmer who
was informed of the fact, that led to our
getting in touch with each other IF WE'RE GONNA
BE FUCKING SPECIFIC. I dunno, maybe you should've kept your mouth shut since you had trouble deciding what you wanted.
Fourth. 15%? You notice that
it's not precise anymore, right? "Approximately
15%" does not mean "We are 12.3% of the way
done" or whatever my last percentage was under
your tools was. "Approximately 15%" means we
think we're 'bout 15% into the progress of this
project."
Precision wasn't my fucking
problem. Suspicion was more than warranted given
the circumstances and the rather quick (relative
to translation projects) revival of the
project.
We're not using your
utilities.
I'll verify that for myself
in the end, like I said.
After the things I've seen from
that message, I have little trust to give you
the URL for it, since it is. Well... a
wiki.
I don't want anything from you
other than complete confirmation that you
deleted any script dump I gave, any database,
any patcher, any kernel file which demonstrated
text interception techniques, ANY FILE I ever
gave you. Period.
Anyhow, we're translating via
chapter, via text files, by text replacement
that we're doing by hand. No MS Access files. No
database. Oh, hey. Look. Our files also actually
tell us who's speaking rather than just having
to rely on the call #s for the face
icons.
However, this way, we have a
reliable method for having multiple translators
work with each other without having to pass a
30-something meg database back and forth. We can
just send over a text file that is, at the most,
251kb. ...which is, actually, the piece with all
the Liberl News issues.
Oh, that's
cute. Getting bitchy on my level of progress in
a translation system with everything else I had
going on. Heh.
Fifth. I never gave anyone
ANYTHING. The only things I handed off were the
icon lists I made, and the notes that I wrote
while handwriting it. I just gave over MY WORK.
Not your utilities. Not your tools. Not your
script. Because I think we've got a better
one.
End Point? You're not the only
person in the world who knows enough about
programming to do this.
No, I'm not,
nor do I claim to be. However, given the
difficulties and complexities of the this
particular game, suspicions were fully
warranted. The problem lies with the quick
revival of the project with a magic programmer
that showed up out of the blue. More than
reasonable to guess he got some extra help with
a fairly developed prior system which hadn't
been done before.
But OK, either you're
telling the truth or you're lying. If this is
the truth, we are finished and good riddens. I
truly do hope this is the truth.
I already looked there, dumbass.
That was posted here.
We're keeping our own work
quiet for the time being simply because we don't
have much to show other than minor, behind the
scenes preparation stuff.
This is not
of my concern; it's an extraneous worthless
detail.
As you said, the 'all by
himself'- I can't answer for that, because I
never said it. We did mean it, because Rasqual
did figure out Falcom's compression utility. He
completely reverse engineered it with no
assistance from any of us in the group, and
found a way for us to patch it into a playing
version of the game. I'll even make a youtube
video of it in action if you so wish for
it.
There are things done to it that I
don't have the capability to do, and I don't
think we could do just using your utility. I'll
even show that we no longer have the translated
config screen or any of the spells that were
done in the patch you gave me. I actually
uninstalled Sora no Kiseki and reinstalled it to
wipe your early patch off of it. On all of my
machines. It's gone.
...though despite
doing whatever I can to prove myself to you, I
know that as you've likened me to the trash you
try to keep from this forum, I will never be
able to convince you that we're not using your
tools.
I'm not gonna keep repeating
myself. I'll take your word for it for now, but
verify it for myself later. That is all I can
really do at the moment.
But I will tell you this. Just
because you tell us "No," we're not stopping the
project.
It's a free country. You can
walk into traffic, jump off a cliff, by all
means, do what you want. As long as I had
nothing to do with it, as long as no advantage
was gained from the work that I did for you, I'm
perfectly content with it. It does present a
difficulty in selling off my unfinished work and
all the time I wasted because of you, but shit
happens and that's my problem.
You are in no position to, in
fact.
Once again, I never claimed to be
in the position, you stupid bitch. Stop pulling
that strawman out.
I didn't tell you to
stop/cancel your project in this post, the prior
one, nor in AIM. Cease and desist pertained
solely to anything you might've still been using
that was the result of work that I DID. I've
been quite specific about that.
Do you know English?? What the fuck does this say in the AIM message you received:
"Sef1roth: You more than have the right to exist with another group, but you began translation on my system with my script dump and again, I dunno exactly what the hell you did after our last conversation."
I bolded the text of interest for your ass to help you with your fucking reading of it. I told you that from the get-go, so why in the fuck do you keep pulling out this strawman of your right to exist being questioned/challenged? ENGLISH, BITCH! ENGLISH!
Your right to exist WITH DERIVATIVES OF MY WORK is what was/is being questioned,
if in fact that was the case, which you claim it not to be.
Either way, you still benefitted from me, bitch. The scavenger known as
alerith that was pretty quick to create
his own project page after I removed ED6 content from my site is somebody I
had the displeasure of working with in the past (apparently was monitoring my site for a while)
and ViperDan is a good friend that's been with me for many many years.
All of these are contacts that you the bitch gained as the
result of my work, along with the publicity from my site
given its past Ys projects. As much as I would like to take
EVERYTHING away from you that you gained from me, I can't... All I
can do is prevent you from gaining further publicity from my site
which means keeping this incident private.
We can do this well enough
without you and without your
tools.
This point was made over and
over. Good luck with that.
So that's what's going to
happen.
Oh boy, you sure told me off.
Fuck you.
So please stop assuming that
we've wronged you, and please stop assuming I'm
going to simply toss your stuff around like
that. I haven't. I considered us done when I
logged off AIM on June 30th, and that's what we
are. Done.
Lemme know when you're done
reading this so I can delete your account. We'll
be truly done when I have the chance to verify
all the claims you have made, once any of your
work goes public.
Au revoir and go fuck
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